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Dieter Change
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Ok since April I have spent way to much money trying to change my units because of perk changes and nerfs.
I haven't spoke up on this subject because before this point I have grinned and beared with it.
Now you have angered Darken alot with this newest change.
I can simply not bare with this one without speaking my peace.
I have the utmost respect for you Berserker and the developers of this game.
But unless we get free resets for dieter and assulat rifle mastery perks.
I'm done cashing and will not spend another cent on this game.
I am sick of spending money on nerf resets and changing my units.
- 10 hp ok I will be mad and is doable but - 20 man you have just given 2 of my units a huge handicap and if I want to change them I must spend even more money now.
No thnx free resets for mastery and dieter or you have lost a casher in me man.
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darken rigth me and him not the only ones who spend lot of money changing of units perks and skill cause of updates and changes .. please do something😉
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Ive just spend over 10k e-cash to get dieter on two of my units... Berserker, let us reset mastery and dieter for free. Its really not fair... 1 mp for 20 hp? Its a LOT too much...
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dieter reset
ok i am only level 9 and have no idea what dieter perk is but i dont want darken to quit just because he cant use reset perk for dieter 😁 😁 pls bers make free reset for dieter for these casherss-- or u will be losing some monayyyyyy ☺
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totaly agree with darken, maybe just dieter, and assault perks reset could be nice
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I have already been used to nerf.
I bought at least 18-20 times of 20000cash(reset skills and perks)
Since mine nerf, nade nerf ,rockets nerf.............and so on. 
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Well some of us are poor like me, and don't have the money to put into constant changes.
Reset mastery and dieter or lose my money I don't have the funds to keep changing
Period
I spend what little money I have extra on this game and my habits.
I'll just spend more on my habits from now on then.......
Yeah and I just realized rockets were nerfed to so now all my units have been nerfed all 3....
rockets I can deal with though I don't need a reset for that
- 20 hp now for dieter .....................
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yes first ruin build and i buy about 3 reset all perks and skills then ruined again srry bers but im not going to continue putting cash 😉
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what it changed a thogut it was like this
(+)Dieter
Action:
Moviment AP: +1;
HP Regeneration: -1. ( its - 20 hp now ?)
Required:
Perk: Assault Rifle Mastery x5;
Assault Rifle Skill x32;
Lvl: 12.
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what it changed a thogut it was like this
(+)Dieter
Action:
Moviment AP: +1;
HP Regeneration: -1. ( its - 20 hp now ?)
Required:
Perk: Assault Rifle Mastery x5;
Assault Rifle Skill x32;
Lvl: 12.
+1 ap on sub mashine take -20 weight
weight it's worse then -20 health....so calm dow you got over 230 hp.... it's not such a big deal nothing has changed
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We felt affault rifle line of guns is too good anyway and -1 regeneration really does nothing so we decided to add this extra drawback. Perk Dieter will be reset for those who feen -20 HP is not worth extra movement AP but naturally Assault Rifle mastery like won't be dropped as it ridicuolus to think that -20 HP makes assault rilfes completely unusable.
And to those people who complain about new updates and balance changes, etc. I suggest you to get used to it. My objective is to make this game balanced and fun where there is no weapon, skill, or perk that adds supreme advantage. All choices must be viable. Therefore there were many changes and many more to come. I can understand your disappointment but I can't help you. We are going to balance this game until it will be perfect from level 1 to level 50 and your complains will do nothing as we are striving for better world for everyone. So if you are really upset with balance changes you can always quit the game. There are quite some number of people who quit after specific nerf, I feel sorry for them, I miss them, but I won't react on intimidation.
Like I said all those changes are not because we want to rip you off and to force you buy reset over and over. If we feel change was too significant, we proceed with partial resets for everyone. This case is not nearway close to significant, so please cut it out. Yes, -20 might cause some discomfort on low levels but it's a good trade for 1 movement AP especially since assault rifles are a good line of weapons and people mainly pump mastery there not for +1 movement AP but to carry better assault rife.
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We felt affault rifle line of guns is too good anyway and -1 regeneration really does nothing so we decided to add this extra drawback. Perk Dieter will be reset for those who feen -20 HP is not worth extra movement AP but naturally Assault Rifle mastery like won't be dropped as it ridicuolus to think that -20 HP makes assault rilfes completely unusable.
And to those people who complain about new updates and balance changes, etc. I suggest you to get used to it. My objective is to make this game balanced and fun where there is no weapon, skill, or perk that adds supreme advantage. All choices must be viable. Therefore there were many changes and many more to come. I can understand your disappointment but I can't help you. We are going to balance this game until it will be perfect from level 1 to level 50 and your complains will do nothing as we are striving for better world for everyone. So if you are really upset with balance changes you can always quit the game. There are quite some number of people who quit after specific nerf, I feel sorry for them, I miss them, but I won't react on intimidation.
Like I said all those changes are not because we want to rip you off and to force you buy reset over and over. If we feel change was too significant, we proceed with partial resets for everyone. This case is not nearway close to significant, so please cut it out. Yes, -20 might cause some discomfort on low levels but it's a good trade for 1 movement AP especially since assault rifles are a good line of weapons and people mainly pump mastery there not for +1 movement AP but to carry better assault rife.
after being here an almost a year, and as a proud casher that got nerf from alot wpns (melee, nades, mines and many more) most of them impect my build. the thing is, you should look on the all picture. i would say there are some more wpns who need to get nerf, but its going in the right way..
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so keep with the good work
and DO somthing about the rockets!!!
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and DO somthing about the rockets!!!
We reducted it's damage on the edges of splash radius as news said. So let me know how you like them now.
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I agree that -20 hp is way too much of a trade for 1 mp. And since this is an enforced change it would be only fair to reset all related perks, same as it was with grenades.
I am really upset about this change too, because honestly at my level it does make dieter perk next to useless because such low hp will make the unit way too vurnerable to be able to fight someone without the perk.
You need to consider not only this perk but also the perks given up on the way to this one, because that is how i viewed this, a sort of a stepping stone to head for.
In my opinion nerfs are a great way towards ruining a game. Not necessarily because they are unfair, but because they take away what people who already play the game were heading towards
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any way that extra movement AP could be changed to a regular AP?
I think that may make it a little more balanced. It would still be underpowered compared to the extra AP perk for sub machineguns.
With the sub machinegun AP perk you can offset the negative effects with 2 other perks, where as the assult rifle perk it takes 3 perks to offset the negative affect and you only get a movement AP not just a normal AP.
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any way that extra movement AP could be changed to a regular AP?
I think that may make it a little more balanced. It would still be underpowered compared to the extra AP perk for sub machineguns.
With the sub machinegun AP perk you can offset the negative effects with 2 other perks, where as the assult rifle perk it takes 3 perks to offset the negative affect and you only get a movement AP not just a normal AP.
No we wont change it to regular AP and you should compare those to other AP perks cause it's flat our wrong. For example Shotgun perks give +1 move AP for free and then +1 regular AP and -10 perks. This might look way better than SMG perks but not that many people pursuing Shotgun mastery in the first place cause effect must be viewed taking in mind actual weapons themselves. To date Assault Rifles are way more versatile weapons than SMG or Shotguns and naturally Assault rifle perks should not be as good as SMG or Shotgun perks to offset benefits from weapons themselves.
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i don't think giving a perk reset for every such major change would make anyone lose anything,no there won't be any gunrox not getting funded and no money for the developers bull s, cause honestly some people would definitely quit rather then pay 20$ for it every time. i don't what the big deal is, trying to balance the game is a good thing but experiment like that with no resets is playing with peoples money(rip off) indeed. don't want to be intimidating but its quite intimidating to see that there are going to be alot of changes like THAT (no they're not, there are always going to be changes,first rule for mmo's)
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To date Assault Rifles are way more versatile weapons than SMG or Shotguns and naturally Assault rifle perks should not be as good as SMG or Shotgun perks to offset benefits from weapons themselves.
That is in a way what i meant with about "ruining by nerfing". It was nerfed because it was popular.
If shotguns will all of the sudden (or after a couple more nerfs) become popular it will suddenly appear to be overpowered and will need a nerf too.. Eventually it will result in the total of the game going back instead of forward.
The balancing factors are not just weapons it 's also the maps and situations in the game.. And the biggest factor - the players themselves.
Nerfing mechanics over popularity is just ruining the game for whoever enjoyed that part of the mechanics. instead of nerfing something it would be better to improve the counterparts to match up to it.
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Ok I have took a nap and slept on this subject and gave it much thought.
Why should we pay cash for your balance mistakes
I am not trying to give any bad attitude here
I took assulat rifle mastery perks to get the dieter
Both should be reset
I don't feel I should have to pay money to fix something that was the developers unbalnce in the first place not mine.
If you give something a nasty negative to get it balanced in your eyes
Then all related perks should be reset
We the cashers of gunrox should not be made to pay more cash for the developers balance mistakes.
Its not our mistakes that made the unbalance and we should not be punished for taking perks leading to that mistake by the developers.
Plain and simple.
Reset dieter and mastery perks again cuz its not our fault that the game needs balanced and we should not be forced to pay cash for your mistakes.
I respect you all as people and think you all are good people.
But I think its time to start respecting those who pay thier hard earned money into this game to.
I took the mastery perks to get dieter or i would never have took them in the first place if I knew it would lead to - 20 hp.
Its only fair you reset both.
And this is not a threat by me its the truth.
I feel ripped off by the developers forcing me to pay cash to change something that was thier unbalance in the first place.
If mastery and dieter do not get both reset then I am done cashing and paying for others unbalance.
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