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Enough
Is this just a way for the game to get extra money out of us? It seems like every month theres another nerf that causes people to spend more cash to fix.
Reseting our stats only helps a bit. When your thinking of your builds theres alot more involved then just the perks that are changed by the dev's.
I enjoyed my time here but i cant support this anymore.
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I guess i never understand devs changing things because of balance.
If everyone has an equal chance at getting something then isnt that balanced?
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I guess i never understand devs changing things because of balance.
If everyone has an equal chance at getting something then isnt that balanced?
LOL Eastlake12, You know better than that. The entire debate since day 1 has been about a fair difference between "casher" and "non-casher" players. If there was in fact an "imbalance" with a "casher" dominant gun, then of course it needs to be fixed to keep the "non-casher" players happy.
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Hmm i think the main problem is not the necessary changes. I think everybody often think about reskilling his units. But its hard to find the best options. (Thats good because all have good sides and bad sides just a kind of balance)
I think everybody would be happy about reskilling something but to use your unit in another way like before mosttime you must reskill more than one kind of perks/skills. For example you use granade its good to use mule to hold some ammo for your launchers. Or sniper are much usefull at lower level if you get 14ap to shoot twice times. If you can use vint it isnt so important like before and you want to reskill.
What do you think if everytime you level up you get 1 resetting perk and 1 resetting skill per unit for free. So you can change your units a little bit or you collect the resettings for a bigger change of one unit. (for example changes of admis)
I believe this is a good motivation to level up and threads about some small changes of skills dont start so fast like now. You just must play to level up 3-4 times to reskill 10perks. Eventually a hard way because of the changes you dont like but no mission impossible or wasting of money.
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If shotguns will all of the sudden (or after a couple more nerfs) become popular it will suddenly appear to be overpowered and will need a nerf too..
Wrong assumption. At higher levels Assault Rifle become extremely good long/mid range weapon with AUG and with G11 they make up for close range. Dont forget scopes, bayonets, etc. Assault rifles are popular for a reason and with this update we try to take away a bit of it's awesomeness by adding HP drawback.
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I don't feel I should have to pay money to fix something that was the developers unbalnce in the first place not mine.
Ok, this game is not balanced, at it wont be balanced for a looong time, it will only be closer to balance. So if you are not ok with that you should not playing this game, cause -20 HP is a disaster and we are ripping you off.
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Hmm i think the main problem is not the necessary changes. I think everybody often think about reskilling his units. But its hard to find the best options. (Thats good because all have good sides and bad sides just a kind of balance)
No, the problem is in people's mentality. People always want to reskill to the next best build, taking advantage of something that dominates at the moment instad of sticking to their playstyle and playing it. None of the changes we make doesnt make specific weapon or perk unusable, it only makes it in line with everything else. But people become upset cause they are so used to stuff that ruled just recently and now become same as everything, they want to reskill to the next imbalanced thing to have advantage over other players. They dont understand what the balance is and why we are nerfing stuff. This is why they come up on forums and start compaining, asking about resets, etc.
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I think -20HP is better then -1HP regen because you don't need to spend extra perk for HP regeneration. Also please note that almost all high level players have Dieter perk so we all in same situation.
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First I would like to say I have no personal problems with the staff or the moderators or the dev's
I think you all are very good people and have treated me well.
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I understand your point, but I really don't think your understanding mine.
I don't want - 20 hp I would have never took the 5 masteries and got dieter if it was - 20 hp.
U turned something good into something bad and expect us to pay to make it good again and into something I / we want.
I am now not happy with my characters because of your changes when I spent money to make my characters the way I like with whats available.
Over and over this happens and you force people to pay money to make thier units the way they like again.
When you make characters into something people did not want, you should offer free resets in skills and all related perks
I paid alot of money to make my characters the way I like
To me this is about money and taking away good things from players and expecting them to pay to get what they like again. And to get the balance they like
If you want to lessen powerful perks and give them draw backs feel free.
Thats a good thing.
And yes I am not forced to pay anything and I am not forced to change.
But what I am forced to do is accept that my characters are not how I would like and am forced to face the fact I wasted money on this game to get what I wanted character wise.
Reset skills and related perks please I am not happy with my characters yet again because you changed something not me.
I would not have took 5 mastery perks or dieter in the first place to make my characters the way I wanted if it was - 20 hp before.
Again this is about wasted money and you forcing people to waste even more money to get what they want and what they like character wise. And achieve the balance they like with whats available.
If I can see your point surely you can see the players points.
For this is not just me talking here, this is the opinon of most of my clan who cash also.
And alot of players we / I have spoken with
I respect you and know all to well about nerfs
I have been playing many games these last 7 years online that have been greatly affected my nerfs.
But no where is the player expected to pay to make thier characters into something they want again besides for gunrox....
- 20 hp isn't the end of the world I agree
But its also something I never wanted in the first place and would have never took the 5 mastery perks to get
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Ok, this game is not balanced, at it wont be balanced for a looong time, it will only be closer to balance. So if you are not ok with that you should not playing this game, cause -20 HP is a disaster and we are ripping you off.
Not a disaster I agree, but also something I didn't want in the first place and would not have took 5 mastery perks to get.
And ripped off is to strong a term in this situation
More like you wasted our money unless at least mastery and dieter both get resets.
Cuz I and alot of others pay money to make our units into something we enjoy to play with.
Now I don't enjoy what I paid to get..........
Understand now?
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To me this is about money and taking away good things from players and expecting them to pay to get what they like again. And to get the balance they like
No, I expect them to continue playing without reskills and see how awesome Assault Rifles are even without exptra 20 HP 😉
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K you don't see the point I'm trying to make here and your players are trying to make.
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I see your point 100 %
Your saying - 20 hp doesn't effect people that much and assualt rifles power makes up for the lack of hp.
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What I'm saying is
You turned our units into something we did not want, and we paid to make them into something we wanted.
Hence I wasted my hard earned money on balancing my units into something I enjoy to play with
I will not be wasting even more money again on this game as will not many others
I'd have rather got gun n run and waited longer for sig and kept my hp
Now your saying I have to pay again to get something I enjoy playing with
Guess I'll just have to live with playing units I do not enjoy
But at least I know my money will be going to something I enjoy doing now 100 % and not taking risks on this game to get what I enjoy out of it.
Would not have wasted my money taking 5 mastery perks and dieter
Would have took gun n run instead because thats the balance I would like to have for my characters at this time.
If you change something your cashers payed money for to get
Then you should reset what they took to get it
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Whatever you may say bers, The game is for 'US'(no not united states of america) not you alright? whether we go emotional unstable(heh and your just perfect? puhlease) or whatever, without our opinions on the matter you can't go changing the rules for the game like that, At least make a poll and get feed back, but nooo instead your saying we are going emotional 20hp is no big deal, have your seen your level? 40! get on a level 15-20 and PLAY on that level and then think about balancing, i hardly ever see you playing, i am not fighting over the perk change, not at all, infact i love the unplant mine thing that just been updated in the game, but hey changing perks like that at that level is unfair, people choose their perks and when you change those perks and not give a reset for them is the biggest fraud and emotional unstable thing to see
change your position at the moment. lets talk fair, your the admin, you don't worry about leveling or enkord cash cause you just made the game, you change the perks and create discomfort Without telling, now 3 things happen
those who were stable with their builds got unstable, those who can't take it would try to approach and talk about it
second they would just say bleh and stop playing cause they had enough
they would simply would have to pay up and try some other build all the while you get benefit from it making money and you with only one excuse im just trying balance the game.
now all those three conditions apply for both cashers and non cashers
why don't you just get out of your sit for a while and looks it from other eyes instead of blaming them they are emotional about it.
I'm just very disappointed all the sudden seeing all this grow like it has...
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Exactly.....🙄
Thank you bee for puttin it into words that reflect how I feel.
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Whatever you may say bers, The game is for 'US'(no not united states of america) not you alright? whether we go emotional unstable(heh and your just perfect? puhlease) or whatever, without our opinions on the matter you can't go changing the rules for the game like that, At least make a poll and get feed back, but nooo instead your saying we are going emotional 20hp is no big deal, have your seen your level? 40! get on a level 15-20 and PLAY on that level and then think about balancing, i hardly ever see you playing, i am not fighting over the perk change, not at all, infact i love the unplant mine thing that just been updated in the game, but hey changing perks like that at that level is unfair, people choose their perks and when you change those perks and not give a reset for them is the biggest fraud and emotional unstable thing to see
change your position at the moment. lets talk fair, your the admin, you don't worry about leveling or enkord cash cause you just made the game, you change the perks and create discomfort Without telling, now 3 things happen
those who were stable with their builds got unstable, those who can't take it would try to approach and talk about it
second they would just say bleh and stop playing cause they had enough
they would simply would have to pay up and try some other build all the while you get benefit from it making money and you with only one excuse im just trying balance the game.
now all those three conditions apply for both cashers and non cashers
why don't you just get out of your sit for a while and looks it from other eyes instead of blaming them they are emotional about it.
I'm just very disappointed all the sudden seeing all this grow like it has...
this kind of posts are becomming common among new updates with mejor changes...
the thing is, i am agree with all the players who feel unconfort with it. all you Enkords, you always says this game still in building, so as we (players) are use to see all those changes and rethink and rebuild, so you, makers of the game, should get more understood with it. i am sure its not that of a problem too drop perks and skill point or even reset the units who got real suffer. it wont hurt your income, and even will raise the trust as we players have on you GOV ☺
i love this game, dont kill him with politics
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i am sure its not that of a problem too drop perks and skill point or even reset the units who got real suffer.
I do not consider slight HP decrease being real suffer. Real suffer was rocket launchers and they will be reset.
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i dont see it as real suffer as well, but i am just saying. cause it need to be say
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i dont see why you dont just reset the skills and perks? whats the big deal?
i dont care either way as ill just put it right back because i personally dont mind the change. but why would you even consider not doing a reset with the amount of people that are obviously upset with the update? it doesnt cost you anything.
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i dont see why you dont just reset the skills and perks? whats the big deal?
i dont care either way as ill just put it right back because i personally dont mind the change. but why would you even consider not doing a reset with the amount of people that are obviously upset with the update? it doesnt cost you anything.
Because next time when we will change the weight of some medikit by 1 point people will jump up demanding full reset of everything cause we have ruined their build.
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Its not about the hp its not about the nerfs.
Its about you making us waste our money changing our units into something we don't want
Wasting our time and money is the issue here to me.
I spent hard earned money makin my characters into something I enjoy
With your changes you have wasted my money
And turned my units into something I do not like
Do you even care you have wasted my money
Probably not I guess ☺
I do not want the mastery perks now and I do not want the dieter if it means it leads to - 20 hp and I am not happy with my units that I SPENT MONEY ON!!!!!
I am not happy you made me waste my money changing my units into something I do not enjoy to look at and play with.
This is not only me talking this is alot of players here
Again do you care we wasted our money ?
The right thing to do is reset all related perks if your cashers are not happy
We spend money making our units the way we like
If I wasn't a casher I'd have no say in this matter
But I have spent way to much money making my units into something I enjoy
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I've already heard your opinion more than once, no need to repeat it over and over.
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