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Hi all. as we all know, gunrox has reached a sort of halting point, and all the changes we seen in the past year or so were regarding cash items. it's quite understandable in the sense that the game is currently balanced, and no items or levels can be added or vastly improved.
but i feel that there is huge potential to make the game a lot more exciting.
my idea was to add some teamplay (5v5) tournament, one that will run alongside the normal tournaments. i really want to take the mega concept to the next level, for example forming a mega team with voice chat and synchronized builds. i feel this is something the game really lacks - there are serious team players, but no one pushed this concept to the limits, and frankly i think mega is much more complex and demanding than 1v1.
berserker, i'm sure that if you implement an idea of this sort, you will answer not only my desires, but many players'.
thanks
i agree with this idea but i don't think it will be 5x5 tournament because then if it's lvl limited , there will not be enough players to make games it's 10 players per game and if it is for all lvls it wil be completly unbalanced but i still agree for the team tournament
it will be level capped like normal tournaments. if there is 10-15 1v1 tournament running, it will run alongside, and so on.
teams will be determined for tournament upfront so for example when there is 10-15 tournament, you can form a team with levels between 50-75 and so on.
exchanges in teams should be restricted to a certain reasonable number.
the idea is not to have 400 competitors, but rather several groups that are more serious.
another crucial point that i forgot to mention, is not to have the normal tournament system, but to implement a system like chess tournament for example, to reduce RNG elements such as bad map or dced player, and let the teams have second chance even if they lost a game.
the system i'm talking is scoring, where a win grants you 1 point and a lose 0 points. say there are 5 matches, even if you lost the first match, if you win all other 4 you have good chance of winning the entire competition. tie breakers will obviously add more to the thrill.
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Hi all. as we all know, gunrox has reached a sort of halting point, and all the changes we seen in the past year or so were regarding cash items. it's quite understandable in the sense that the game is currently balanced, and no items or levels can be added or vastly improved.
but i feel that there is huge potential to make the game a lot more exciting.
my idea was to add some teamplay (5v5) tournament, one that will run alongside the normal tournaments. i really want to take the mega concept to the next level, for example forming a mega team with voice chat and synchronized builds. i feel this is something the game really lacks - there are serious team players, but no one pushed this concept to the limits, and frankly i think mega is much more complex and demanding than 1v1.
berserker, i'm sure that if you implement an idea of this sort, you will answer not only my desires, but many players'.
thanks
i agree ^^
maybe only 2v2/3v3 tournament will be fine ^^
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Not bad idea but there are some disadvantages like if all go full art 5x5 1 game will took like 3-4 hours + and in many mages some1 have to go dc and whole team can lose cos 1 players is dc ☺
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Not bad idea but there are some disadvantages like if all go full art 5x5 1 game will took like 3-4 hours + and in many mages some1 have to go dc and whole team can lose cos 1 players is dc ☺
1. i agree with the art part, probably better to make no art.
2. thats exactly my point.. if you want a good group you need to find truly dedicated players that you can group with.
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i agree with this idea but i don't think it will be 5x5 tournament because then if it's lvl limited , there will not be enough players to make games it's 10 players per game and if it is for all lvls it wil be completly unbalanced but i still agree for the team tournament
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moved to 1st comment
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WOAH 1 step at a time. We don't even have 2x2 tournaments. (and probably never will on that note)
The only way this would be even remotely fair is if the teams were auto-generated from a pool of players.
A 5x5 tournament is damn near impossible in the first place. You've seen all of the TKO's in regular tournaments on how many people don't even show up. Since the tournament would have to have auto-generated teams to be fair, most of the time only some of the players would even show up. Let alone be fully armed.
In conclusion, team tournaments are a nightmare. And completely unfair for excellent players who have absentee teammates. If players were allowed to pick teams, nobody would want to play against a team of the best 5 players with team-battle builds as it is unfair/biased to the people with the best friends, and so very few teams would even enter in the first place. It's a lose-lose situation either way you look at it. And 2x2 isn't any better, thus why it hasn't (and again, probably wont ever be) implemented in the game.
I'm not here to shoot down your idea, I'm only giving your 5x5 tournament fantasy a healthy dose of reality. I too have fantasized about this idea but it just simply isn't feasible in practice. Your best bet is to organize a tournament of your own. Go find some "serious players" and form one. Since there would only be a handful of serious teams anyways.
P.S. If it is an art battle, do you honestly think there won't be any team killing over all that loot. Good luck recovering anything from downed units 😉 Greedy bastards
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well this can work actualy but only if we make it as a league , teams formed will not play 1 battle only they will play numerous battles and get points , the team with the most points will take 1st place and so on , ofc it will take like 1 month to finish tourney but it is worth it
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well this can work actualy but only if we make it as a league , teams formed will not play 1 battle only they will play numerous battles and get points , the team with the most points will take 1st place and so on , ofc it will take like 1 month to finish tourney but it is worth it
un-original idea as it is taken straight from COD league play. Also, as I said BEFORE, there would only be a small handful of teams. I think they'd get sick of fighting the same 4 teams over and over for a whole month.
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WOAH 1 step at a time. We don't even have 2x2 tournaments. (and probably never will on that note)
The only way this would be even remotely fair is if the teams were auto-generated from a pool of players.
A 5x5 tournament is damn near impossible in the first place. You've seen all of the TKO's in regular tournaments on how many people don't even show up. Since the tournament would have to have auto-generated teams to be fair, most of the time only some of the players would even show up. Let alone be fully armed.
In conclusion, team tournaments are a nightmare. And completely unfair for excellent players who have absentee teammates. If players were allowed to pick teams, nobody would want to play against a team of the best 5 players with team-battle builds as it is unfair/biased to the people with the best friends, and so very few teams would even enter in the first place. It's a lose-lose situation either way you look at it. And 2x2 isn't any better, thus why it hasn't (and again, probably wont ever be) implemented in the game.
I'm not here to shoot down your idea, I'm only giving your 5x5 tournament fantasy a healthy dose of reality. I too have fantasized about this idea but it just simply isn't feasible in practice. Your best bet is to organize a tournament of your own. Go find some "serious players" and form one. Since there would only be a handful of serious teams anyways.
P.S. If it is an art battle, do you honestly think there won't be any team killing over all that loot. Good luck recovering anything from downed units 😉 Greedy bastards
thanks for your comment.
1. tournament is never about being "fair", its about determining who is the best. the opening conditions are the same for all, so i don't see any reason its not fair. if a team forms, talk about strategys, make resets so builds are synchronized, and bond well - they should win and its absolutly fair.
2. since teams do not have to be "auto generated", your next point is not valid. again, if someone takes it seriously he will show up on time. otherwise his team should replace him next tournament.
3. i don't understand your point about "best players being unbeatable therefor not a fair match" you forfeit the battle before even trying, not to mention yet again that if someone is putting alot of effort into a game he deserve to win. i think if you turn things around, than its unfair.
4. as i said in my first comment, its not about quantity, but rather quality. there are enough level 50s who like mega to make 4 teams, which is absolutly sufficient, and ofc low lvls as well.
5. again, not art will make it work.
i think you didn't carefully read the whole thing cause u obviously missed a lot of my points. people will not run tire of it because it will not be constant tournament, but will take place for each level range at about the regularity of the normal tournaments.
i would also suggest only symbolic rewards, with no cash or arts involved.
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thanks for your comment.
3. i don't understand your point about "best players being unbeatable therefor not a fair match" you forfeit the battle before even trying, not to mention yet again that if someone is putting alot of effort into a game he deserve to win. i think if you turn things around, than its unfair.
If players could choose their own teams, it would be unfair. The teams would be completely unbalanced. 2-3 teams of friends would have all the good players and crush the other teams who have no team synergy. There would be very little competition. What kind of person wants to play a tournament where there is very little competition? Maybe fun for the winners, but then nobody would want to play in a 5x5 tournament ever again after their rag-tag clan of misfits was brutally dominated by a band of skilled friends who play together often.
I guess it really depends on what your definition of fun is. I want to see this happen, but it never will obviously. Since there are so few players that play GUNROX, there will be very few teams to do a tournament with if people make their own teams.
Please try to understand what I am saying here.
i think you didn't carefully read the whole thing cause u obviously missed a lot of my points.
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If players could choose their own teams, it would be unfair. The teams would be completely unbalanced. 2-3 teams of friends would have all the good players and crush the other teams who have no team synergy. There would be very little competition. What kind of person wants to play a tournament where there is very little competition? Maybe fun for the winners, but then nobody would want to play in a 5x5 tournament ever again after their rag-tag clan of misfits was brutally dominated by a band of skilled friends who play together often.
I guess it really depends on what your definition of fun is. I want to see this happen, but it never will obviously. Since there are so few players that play GUNROX, there will be very few teams to do a tournament with if people make their own teams.
Please try to understand what I am saying here.
i think you didn't carefully read the whole thing cause u obviously missed a lot of my points.
i think the only thing i missed is your definition to unbalanced. 5x5 is balanced, teams are equal, dont think theres anything more to it.
if one think it's unfair or anything, he should leave it for competitive ones.
anyway i understand your point, thanks for raising it. i dont agree with it but no point arguing about it.
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It might help if There was a level limit and you could make your own team.But you can't choose the opposite team as the system will sort out the level balances and put against you with an equal leveled team.
But this kinda looks too big to happen as gunrox has only about 100-150 active players at the moment.
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