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What matters the rank?
The only advantage I see, is when a clan have the control of one location to receive the 10% Extra XP.
The ranks of the Clans, only morally interesting!
We all know that the Red Talons, are the greatest and always will be 😁
With all respect for the other clans😎
Like I said in my first post - reward is not important in this discussion. We need to make up a good unfarmable trustworthy ranking system. When we have it, we could add very good bonuses for first places in clan without worries that it will be farmed.
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Bers,
I do have a idea for a clan system ranking, matter of fact, me and a few people have been putting something together, because my brother and his friends are developing a game. But what good will it do for me to post it, because i have seen HUNDREDS of threads on here with very good ideas on making this game very good, and yet not one of them have been implemented and/or you have not posted on there saying what you think of the idea. In my opinion you want what you want, not what the customers want, which is ok i guess because you are the owner.
Second, you say there will be a penalty for switching out members, but earlier you said that its our problem if we do not take lower lvls into the clan, isnt that switching out members. And for most clans, we have our members, and the Loyalty of each is to the clan. So why would someone switch out a member who is 100% loyal to that clan. This system as you can see will not be a good idea, i have yet to see 1 good comment about this system.
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true true madda...
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This system as you can see will not be a good idea, i have yet to see 1 good comment about this system.
That's because frequent forum posters are high level players and this system gives equal rights to low level players to fight for their place in top list. And speaking about you personally, I am trying hard to recall any positive comment from you, so I am not at all surprised.
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Well its hard to give positive comments, when you yourself are not positive. And to see all the nerfs and everything that has been implemented, and to see the COUNTLESS numbers of complaints and negative feedback on them, and you just turning your back saying (i do not care about complaints, or how ever you said it), just shows the general public that you do not care what the people have to say. And i have no issues or problems, the only clans that will take part in your little system will be the lower lvls, all the higher lvls have already agreed that this is a bad update, and will continue to play the 5x5 megas, and ignore the whole system. And what i said about what you want is what you want, is true, re-read ALL your posts, saying 3x3 is funner and its what I want. You barely play this game, so why do things YOU want, you should be more focused on what PLAYERS want, not just yourself.
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And when i speak on forums about a idea or something, its not just about ME or my clan, i speak on behalve of everyone that actually a voice in this game (not meaning everyone dont, meaning that the ones who have been here supporting this game since beta). Everyone discusses all these issues in games, and i read everything people write, and i try to discuss them here, only to get the impression that "I am Stupid or Dont know what I am talking about". As said before in previous threads over and over again, Low lvls yes are a good factor in this game, but you also have to see that all the high lvls have been here supporting you since day 1, and all it seems your doing is turning your back on them.
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And i have no issues or problems, the only clans that will take part in your little system will be the lower lvls, all the higher lvls have already agreed that this is a bad update, and will continue to play the 5x5 megas, and ignore the whole system.
Speak for yourself and your own clan. I am well aware that you are very good in boycoting something and turning other people against something like you did with last tournament, but I thought you hae learned from that lesson that it wont bring you anywhere. Sure talons can ignore anything, you've showed that attitude many times before, but I am sure other high level clans like MaJeStiX and S.W.A.T. will not miss their chance to try this new system if it will be implemented.
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Hmmm
No one can say this new system will be a failure yet, once it is tried out for a period of time then we can all see if it will work or not.
And just remember each clan will be be in a group approximately 5-10 clans, so i am guessing, all clans will have some options to fight other clans.
If berserker makes it so clans have to fight each other once a week or other clan wins 1, 2 or 3 points, then smaller clans will have to play bigger clans and so will big clans have to play the smaller ones unless they lose or other clan gains points or something.
Or maybe clans size can be increased (by 5 or so,) so new members can join and.. perhaps help fight against other clans.
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Or maybe clans size can be increased (by 5 or so,) so new members can join and.. perhaps help fight against other clans.
If you read carefully you could noticed that I mentioned clans will be gaining +1 member slot per level.
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First off, I'd like to say thanks to the Enkord Dev Team for recognizing our needs for a clan system restructure. It is going to make tremendous strides towards improving the movitation, pride, and overall gaming experience.
I would like to say that I found it extremely difficult to come up with a different clan system setup. I think berkserker is RIGHT ON as far as what needs to be changed and how it is to be set up. Thinking of an effective and positive clan system is far more difficult than people seem to think it is.
I think that everything berserker has started out for us (original post on this thread) sounds good, however, I do have one small additional thought... This is what I came up with using the current coding capabilities we have or something that would require (I hope) very little coding to implement.
I believe that we can emphasize a clan ranking for the different types of games that Gunrox has to offer. For now, all we have is KotH and Team Deathmatch. We can set up individual rankings for each type...
Team Deathmatch Leaderboard
King of the Hill Leaderboard
--(Unequipped Leaderboard)
--(Forest Map 'non-shrinking' Leaderboard)
----(Protect the Leader Leaderboard)
----(Capture the Flag Leaderboard)
OVERALL LEADERBOARD
In order to satisfy ALL audiences we might be better off adding a "naked" ranking. (I don't believe that this will encourage more naked fighting, but rather it might serve as a motivator to the new clans to start playing for "real" Leaderboards.) Keep in mind that we can have this type (naked) of clan ranking be worth far less than the other styles altogether. Also note that I added a 'non-shrinking' option, we can possibly have a turn off feature for the red-zone on the new Forest map for a 4th Leaderboard. Scoring system may appear as follows...
Team Deathmatch - win 9pts, lose 3pts
King of the Hill - win 6pts, lose 2pts
Unequipped - win 3pts, lose 1pt
Also, with this in place we would be allowed to play the same clan up to 3 different games per week, I don't think that this will be too much at this point. And if it is, we can restrict the clans to one type of battle and allow them to choose which to play for that current week.
I also added 2 new types of play not yet discussed on forum, I want to encourage the Dev Team to create new ways to play an already great game. We can feature these new types down the road perhaps. A few ideas would be started with "Protect the Leader" or "Capture the Flag", but we would need the help of the players to provide more constructive criticism regarding these posibilities. And if the Dev Team says that this is way down the road, then so be it.
Please add your input on game styles here
Finally, with all the different kinds of leaderboards we can have out there, it is possible to come up with some interesting benefits for 'making the list' on some of the styles of play. And with so many ways to earn benefits for your clan, I feel that this will encourage the creation of more clans.
Edited 12 minutes later by Chicken.
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berserker let's change what you want - we will see how its work
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Chicken,
I also thank Bers for acknowleding that our clan system needs to be improved, yes it does, and i congradulate him for finally making it happen, the only thing i disagree on is the fact that its 3x3 ONLY and that ONLY the SAME clan can fight to earn points and ONLY 1 fight with a certain clan PER week. Them are the cruicial downfalls to this system i believe. But Bers has made up his mind, and we will see this system implemented soon, and i guess all we can do is see how it fairs up.
On another Note Chicken, you have some nice ideas there, i hope he considers them.
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Chicken - nice idea about various leaderboards, but I think it will be better as individual tables, not clan ones. I want to make clan ranking single simple and straight. There are not that many clans for now to make various types of rankings. Maybe when there will be over 100 clans and competition in top list will be hard.
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EDIT:
Forgot to add that the 1 fight per week really isnt all that bad, if we were allowed to fight in a 3x3, 4x4, or 5x5 and have mix clans. Then it wouldnt be so bad at all. Maybe grant the HIGHER lvls the privledge to fight 4x4 or 5x5 and mix clans, then u will satisfy both low lvls and high lvls.
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the only thing i disagree on is the fact that its 3x3 ONLY and that ONLY the SAME clan can fight to earn points and ONLY 1 fight with a certain clan PER week. Them are the cruicial downfalls to this system i believe.
That's not the downfall, that's the soul of my system, can't you understand?
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Yes Bers, i understand how u want the low levels in the game to walk along the same side as the high lvls, but u should understand that being #1 clan does not mean how many games u can fight and win/loose to earn that spot, but its the Skills of the clan members. There is NO low lvl clan out there that can out skill ANY of the higher lvl clans. But yet we will see tons of low lvl clans taking the top 3 now, and then they will be parading around saying how they are the best. ok i understand where u want to go with this. And as i said, all we can do now is just wait and see how it will turn out.
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No, you understand that with this system I am forcing clans to fight with each other. I think it is awesome when you battled first place in real fight with competiton, not just by scoring some points. Naturally for that to happen you will be required to have players of various levels in order to put proper team against any other clan. But 3x3 is not a disaster as you still have enough room. You can put level 40+40+10 against 30 + 30 + 30 for example, etc.
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but look at this bers,
You say u will add 1 more clan member per clan lvl, ok that is VERY nice
but even then thats what 4 more clan members, ok Say Swat, Talons, MJX, Wolves all add 4 more Low lvls. what happens when they lvl up to 30+, we need to kick them and add 4 MORE low lvls????
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but look at this bers,
You say u will add 1 more clan member per clan lvl, ok that is VERY nice
but even then thats what 4 more clan members, ok Say Swat, Talons, MJX, Wolves all add 4 more Low lvls. what happens when they lvl up to 30+, we need to kick them and add 4 MORE low lvls????
That will take A LOT of time. By that time chances you will have several other members gone or kicked.
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but u can see that the high lvl clans dont switch members, we have our set members and have had them for a very long time, the only members we will kick are the new ones we add with the bonus clan members on lvl up. But still you see my point there right??
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